How we get paid

Cinder is a comparison desk, not a store. When you click a shop on a cigar, you leave Cinder and land on that retailer. Some of those links are affiliate links. If you buy after following one, the retailer may pay V2S2M, LLC a commission.

That commission does not change the price you pay. We do not add a fee at checkout. We do not mark a shop as “best” because it pays more. The desk ranks quotes by unit price (and by how steep the cut is versus everyday list and versus the best price we have recorded).

We may also earn from optional Cinder memberships (humidor, ratings, notes, recommendations) billed through Stripe. Membership is not required to compare prices or to click through to a shop.

Shops on the desk

We watch JR Cigars, Cigars.com, Famous Smoke, Cigar Place, Cigora, Best Cigar Prices, Cigar Page, Thompson, Small Batch, and related catalogs as they become available. Affiliate relationships are applied for one shop at a time. A missing commission agreement does not keep a low quote off the desk.

Operator-facing signup links for those programs live on Shops we watch. That page is how we apply. It is not a consumer storefront.

What we will not do

• Hide a cheaper shop to protect a higher commission.
• Run branded paid search on a retailer's trademark.
• Sell tobacco to anyone under 21.
• Pretend Cinder is the seller of the cigar.

Questions: jack@v2s2m.com.